X-GM-THRID: 1219938300531666472 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9bc461d719f4cf3b6f09a8a765b951f6eb32c36e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.124.5 with SMTP id w5cs108929wxc; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr510661ugg.1163472108158; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:41:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o1si6192539uge.2006.11.13.18.41.47; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Gjo9J-0007kO-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:35:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Gjo9J-0007kF-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:35:45 +0000 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjoA2-0007SL-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:36:33 +0000 Received: from Radio (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A214F10152 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:35:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <003c01c70795$8dbcf140$6801a8c0@Radio> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <1GjjhM-0giu7m0@fwd29.sul.t-online.de> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:35:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: LPF coils and VY1JA to 1W ERP Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5139 Ha-Jo and all, That makes sense. There was not much difference between 80 and 155 watts, but I did not try anything lower and the amplifier capable higher power tests is under construction. I will let everyone know what I find. J. ------------------------------------------ a former collegue of me had to design an amplifier in the frequency range 10 to 20 kHz delivering a few watts. For the output filter he had used tunable pot cores. He was wondering that he could tune the filter just for a specific output level only. Changing this level would change the performance of the filter and required a retune of the output filter. I could just help him by explaning that, as far as I know, all iron powder or ferrite coils show a certain dependance of AL value versus excitation of the coil. This can even be shown in a simple VFO employing either air coils or iron powder or ferrite coils. When the supply voltage of the oscillator is changed, changing oscillator power too, the influence on frequency is much higher when using iron powder or ferrite coils. Therefore in the case of the low pass filter I guess the rf power will change the desired inductivity values slightly - I confess I do not know in what direction. But there should be an influence. Assuming that the inductivity values of the output filter have been determined correctly, I would propose to prove this thesis at VY1JA if the annoying phase effect would become less when reducing power. If this should be true, the filter coils should be retuned slightly, not the antenna. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB -------------------------------------------