X-GM-THRID: 1219648034001522759 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5a65abbfd7af0a57e6576f2e19b84e890920e78f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.127.4 with SMTP id z4cs5461huc; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.139.1 with SMTP id m1mr2379006hud.1163153787610; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:16:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 31si2853322hub.2006.11.10.02.16.25; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GiTKB-0000oq-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:09:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GiTK8-0000oh-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:09:24 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiTK3-0002iQ-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:09:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 75991 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2006 10:09:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pIgihSFI5RVbGb7tW3rmd06v6N+X53bdlTuNdcuhNXo9lsSOhf5j1wsz1cXLc6qG8JdW/24vPZwdGDL1TyO28C3o+lzC1rapw9pOx5Y7y/xAchF6FKW/JZ3H/MwP7jTaBNdXhAm5S1mzfAm/xRXZhAndKhftjVnzazKjdANkE9Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.19.175 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 10:09:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FOOXWzEVM1kSkcIlLnWeSEKQR83q7_FGqQoCJf6eF9Zc5esNmjmG7_Tir9rXXTHRh6Z9z7y.B7hFRoPqcZ1_aj8Z9eyzk1WMKSNbty4wov9uEWPaR.s- Message-ID: <002c01c704b0$491ad940$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <45541CDB.1050800@online.fr> <455430CB.1050205@online.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:44:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.517 Subject: LF: Re: T/A , Kp = 6 ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4038 Hi J, and Jean-Pierre, yes the Kp rose before midnight to 4 which seems to have been enough to devastate the propagation across the Atlantic. Steve Dove's plot of DCF39 shows about a 30dB lower level that the previous night. It is unusual for the electrons from a minor storm to enter the ionosphere so quickly, but it is tied up with the plasma field direction. I guess from J's comments there was a bright auroral display last night and it would seem a lot of electrons entered via the poles. More usually the electrons are "sucked up" into the magnetoshere tail and are then drawn back to the ring current. They then take a day or so to enter the ionosphere. The ring current "fill level" is indicated by the Dst index and although the Kp recovers quick;ly, the Dst indicates how many electrons are available to provide absorption over the next few nights. These are, I believe, trickled into the ionosphere at the daylight edge were the solar wind pressure distorts the magnetosphere. The result is that although the Kp may be back to quiet tomorrow the poor conditions will probably last for upwards of 6 to 7 days. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean-Pierre M�r� To: Sent: 10 November 2006 07:56 Subject: LF: T/A , Kp = 6 ! Ooopppsssss ! Kp = 6 now ! 73 f1afj