X-GM-THRID: 1220794933016737819 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bf72771b1ec53b3e2b0ec30f462ac1d7e4c93b25 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.28.15 with SMTP id b15cs117215wxb; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.27.3 with SMTP id e3mr4149616ugj.1164240774579; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m1si11479311ugc.2006.11.22.16.12.52; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Gn28e-0005IU-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:08:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Gn28d-0005IL-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gn28a-0002Pt-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 73501 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2006 00:08:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=e/Vd9wLC748qa9xPKy9ry6/DK5jvRPABQVh+6/+vpT/keG9NdfaGXX055NKo7yrGPH42YQ2bzCIEvaz6kt3h0NCX/voi/JnOvVkUztx3K76PktL2cWhmT24abKZVvr/z65gdoyJxAiyErXQN+9ZACfkIokPdaAkzjrOG8kp/M6U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.119.207 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2006 00:08:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cXLTM4UVM1nwl2rD7gBbgfcFB9leAw6e4RpZRXSA81TvCqXAT8lvkKP5QpeyfJ60PGGfyV78Z17ArwlPJGi_nySjP2XvATgRERwgsyhGsvaDDcsrHVdFSkc1ZrILtSI958Kv1PWqPcs241o4ENOAAjkLXjkVLGYD Message-ID: <002801c70e93$776f1b20$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001701c70e90$de626ba0$6801a8c0@Radio> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:08:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.596 Subject: LF: Re: VY1JA beacon protocol changes. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3572 Hi J, that sounds like a good idea. The only comment I would make after a lot of listening for weak stations is that all the other "possibles" like Loran lines peeping above the noise occasionally are very stable, or like TV timebases very UNstable. Your signal was spotted because of the small "switch on drift" it might have been there before but been dismissed as not important. However the one thing that few signals from other sources do is shift frequency in a systematic way. this can be DFCW with a narrow shift (0.1Hz) at that dot-speed. I have suggested to other beacons that they move frequency by a small amount (0.1Hz?, but depends on the speed used ) to a set regime, like every 10 minutes. In Europe this can be particularly useful when looking for very weak signals above 150kHz where we have loads of BC station artifacts. One has to be careful as there is a visual integrating effect where the receiver can spot a line on the screen, amongst the snow, only after several minutes. Moving too rapidly or DFCWing too great a shift can destroy that effect. This shows that super-stable signals are not always the best :-)) Well Done, you worked hard for that. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Allen To: Sent: 22 November 2006 23:49 Subject: LF: VY1JA beacon protocol changes. > John, Hartmut, Steve, Scott, and "The Gang", > > Upon advisement, VY1JA is now beaconing with 3:1 dot ratio, and 60 second > dot length. The time is sychronized daily to NIST and, "JA" is sent every > half-hour, with a , "VY1JA", 6 WPM morse ID following. The beacon transmits > in synchronism every 30 minutes. Transmissions are still on ~137778.65. > > This should make the signal easier to identify and detect and for those with > software and capability to receive CW which is only synchronized to the > computer clock on the half-hour and a computer clock synchronized to NIST > once per day. > > If there is anything which I can do beyond these things to make the signal > easier to detect, I am not aware of it. > > Good luck, (and Hartmut, your card is in the mail box in front of the > general store waiting for pickup tomorrow.) > > 73, > > J. > > >