X-GM-THRID: 1216204467021881261 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c805cedac34a14c96137e0c7a1c96a0635790b17 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs76266huc; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.12 with SMTP id c12mr3718881ugm; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si6158387ugc.2006.10.03.05.48.05; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GUjaq-00018K-AW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:41:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GUjap-00018B-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:41:51 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GUjal-0007u5-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:41:51 +0100 Received: from HOST (balt-209-163-119-105.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.119.105]) by gemini.smart.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k93Cfcbl032011 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:41:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01c6e6e9$455bf260$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: References: <45220984.5050008@telus.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.039 Subject: LF: Re: miniwhip miniresults...? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4197 Scott..I have had similiar results as mentioned by KC3OL.. My miniwhip has performed very good even as good as my LF loop that I used for a couple of years.. I have not noted any intermod problems and it seems to perform well into HF although I pretty much use it exclusively on LF. Get nice signal from 60KHz and 75Khz and down into the VLF--18 and 20Khz. Mine is up about 35 feet in the trees behind the house 50-75 ft from the house. Rx is the TS870. de Lloyd W3NF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: ; "LowFER at LW Cafe" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:56 AM Subject: LF: miniwhip miniresults...? > Dear Miniwhipper-snappers > > I'm looking for some insight. > > I built a miniwhip exactly as described in PA0RDT's article and set it up > on a 20' nonmetallic pole way up in the air on the corner of my house > (about 40' up). At first it was overwhelmed with intermod from every > local AM braodcaster around, but some creative grounding solved most of > that. However, it appears to perform much below the rave reviews I've > read on the reflectors from others. > > It does hear on LF but very poorly. An S9 (S0 noise floor) signal on my > active loop from WD2XSH/20 (N6LF) on 506KHz is barely detectable on the > miniwhip. On 2200m it makes a great light dimmer detector and works well > as my noise antenna for my noise canceler but that's about it. It > doesn't even come close to touching my active loop or high Q vertical on > RX. > > I do agree with Roelof's findings about an E-field antenna making a better > urban antenna then a loop as my big vertical always has a lower local > noise level then the loop and hears way better (I'm a believer Mal!) > > On HF it seems fine with a good SNR and pleasant reception of anything I > care to compare with my other HF antennas. It does seem to perform better > on the higher end of its rated range. > > So guys what's the deal? What am I doing wrong to bring this little > miniwhip to life or is it all hype? > > 73 Scott > >