X-GM-THRID: 1216474328156915870 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e933daa42ed0fb3886088ab88f1de5434b21725e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.205.5 with SMTP id c5cs162521hug; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 06:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.13 with SMTP id b13mr6829829ugj; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m4si860977ugc.2006.10.09.06.57.39; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GWvWv-000579-LV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:50:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GWvWv-000570-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:50:53 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GWvWr-0001Sr-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:50:53 +0100 Received: from [147.197.215.113] (helo=tucana.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1GWvT7-0003Z4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:46:57 +0100 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1GWvSw-0000DD-Kx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:46:46 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c6eba9$5caeae70$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <008b01c6eb0c$0ead2140$21c428c3@captbrian> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-Information: X-H-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.557 Subject: LF: Re: erp ierp VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4028 Dear Bryan, LF Group, ERP is defined by the field strength at a point distant from the TX. = Field strength is a measure of how much signal is present at a particular = point in space. Of course, if you place a receiving antenna at that point, the = signal level at the antenna terminals will be reduced if its polarisation does = not correspond to that of the signal. But the field strength itself does not depend on the receiving antenna, or indeed the presence of any antenna = at all. In practice, to measure field strength, you usually have to use some = kind of calibrated antenna to convert the radio wave into an electrical signal, = with a known relationship between field strength and antenna output signal = level. It is up to you to ensure that any effect of mismatched polarisation (or directional pattern, mismatch or any other kind of gain or loss)is taken into account. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: 08 October 2006 20:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: erp ierp VY1JA Well I always thought there was a large loss depending on the extent to which polarisation differed between emitter and recvr.?