X-GM-THRID: 1213251548138213264 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b11253eef492f17e0d768dd4c883cf9cab4a0b29 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs183231qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr2243988nfk; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si2510023nfc.2006.08.31.16.22.10; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIvml-0007y3-DL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:17:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIvmk-0007xu-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:17:22 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIvmg-00072g-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:17:22 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.c3f.1399636 (40523) for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:13:24 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.022,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Why? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3f.1399636.3228c714_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4367 --part1_c3f.1399636.3228c714_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear J. and LF, ... this is a very interesting question, exposing the heart of the matter. T= o=20 my understanding, the presence of this little bypass capacitor decides=20 between two fundamentally different mdes of Class-D operation. In "voltage-mode class-D" with the center tap RF-grounded, the drain voltage= s=20 are ideally squarewaves between zero and 2x Vdd, with one transistor looking= =20 like the mirror image of the other. The drain currents are half sines, just=20 like in class-B. The output filter has to present a high input impedance for= all=20 odd harmonics, so a T-type lowpass (or a series resonant circuit) should be=20 used. The transformer itself and the wiring must have very low stray inducta= nce=20 to suppress high frequency ringing, caused by a common-mode parallel=20 resonance with the FET output capacitances. Stray inductance can be kept low= by=20 bifilar winding of the transformer primary. Alternatively, it can be complet= ely=20 avoided in a single-ended pushpull (halfbridge) configuration, which does no= t=20 require a balun transformer and shunts all even harmonics directly - this is= what=20 I have been using in my 200 W PA for six years now. Without the bypass at the tap, you enter the "current-mode class-D" regime,=20 where the constant current from the choke is simply switched between the=20 transistors. Thus each FET delivers a squarewave current contribution. The o= utput=20 filter has to shortcircuit the odd harmonics, as in a Pi or parallel tank=20 configuration. The off-state drain voltages are ideally halfcycle sinusoids,= peaking=20 at pi times Vdd. The common mode voltage developed across the choke consists= =20 of even harmonics and looks like the output of a full wave rectifier. The=20 transformer's stray inductance is not a problem here as it is in series with= the=20 choke anyway, so bifilar winding is not needed. Apart from these basic considerations, perhaps Jim or David could comment on= =20 their views of the advantages of one mode or the other? Kind regards, Markus, DF6NM In einer eMail vom 31.08.2006 19:47:07 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= =20 vy1ja@northwestel.net:=20 > Thinkers, >=20 > What are the reasons for not bypassing the center tap on the push-pull amp= s=20 > apart from high bypass current? >=20 > There are spikes on the rising edge near the positive and negative peaks i= n=20 > the waveform of the output from the LPF from the amp I am working on, and=20 > bypassing the center tap to ground cleared up the spikes. It also cleared= =20 > up the bypass capacitor :o). >=20 > J.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --part1_c3f.1399636.3228c714_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear J. and LF,

... this is a very interesting question, exposing the heart of the matter. T= o my understanding, the presence of this little bypass capacitor decides bet= ween two fundamentally different mdes of Class-D operation.

In "voltage-mode class-D" with the center tap RF-grounded, the drain voltage= s are ideally squarewaves between zero and 2x Vdd, with one transistor looki= ng like the mirror image of the other. The drain currents are half sines, ju= st like in class-B. The output filter has to present a high input impedance=20= for all odd harmonics, so a T-type lowpass (or a series resonant circuit) sh= ould be used. The transformer itself and the wiring must have very low stray= inductance to suppress high frequency ringing, caused by a common-mode para= llel resonance with the FET output capacitances. Stray inductance can be kep= t low by bifilar winding of the transformer primary. Alternatively, it can b= e completely avoided in a single-ended pushpull (halfbridge) configuration,=20= which does not require a balun transformer and shunts all even harmonics dir= ectly - this is what I have been using in my 200 W PA for six years now.

Without the bypass at the tap, you enter the "current-mode class-D" regime,=20= where the constant current from the choke is simply switched between the tra= nsistors. Thus each FET delivers a squarewave current contribution. The outp= ut filter has to shortcircuit the odd harmonics, as in a Pi or parallel tank= configuration. The off-state drain voltages are ideally halfcycle sinusoids= , peaking at pi times Vdd. The common mode voltage developed across the chok= e consists of even harmonics and looks like the output of a full wave rectif= ier. The transformer's stray inductance is not a problem here as it is in se= ries with the choke anyway, so bifilar winding is not needed.

Apart from these basic considerations, perhaps Jim or David could comment on= their views of the advantages of one mode or the other?

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM


In einer eMail vom 31.08.2006 19:47:07 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= vy1ja@northwestel.net:

Thinkers,

What are the reasons for not bypassing the center tap on the push-pull amps=20=
apart from high bypass current?

There are spikes on the rising edge near the positive and negative peaks in=20=
the waveform of the output from the LPF from the amp I am working on, and bypassing the center tap to ground cleared up the spikes.  It also clea= red
up the bypass capacitor  :o).

J.





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