X-GM-THRID: 1215957984570292660 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a1c5843c31932d9298a2ebcb23243db885c6323a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs17307huc; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3520583ugm; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i39si3187053ugd.2006.09.30.07.51.37; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GTg6V-0003of-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:46:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GTg6P-0003oW-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:46:05 +0100 Received: from mxs1.siemens.at ([194.138.12.131] helo=atvies1zqx.siemens.at) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GTg6I-0007Wp-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:46:05 +0100 Received: from vies1kbx.sie.siemens.at ([158.226.129.82]) by atvies1zqx.siemens.at with ESMTP id k8UEjibL028944 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:45:44 +0200 Received: from nets139a.ww300.siemens.net ([158.226.129.98]) by vies1kbx.sie.siemens.at (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.1) with ESMTP id k8UEjqri013390 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:45:52 +0200 Received: from btss020a.ww300.siemens.net ([163.242.54.191]) by nets139a.ww300.siemens.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:45:51 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:45:51 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: RE: NEW QRM Thread-Index: Acbki8cogM/ygjtjTKWzAaWxenqQGwAEpaN8 References: <000b01c6e403$7eaf72a0$0300a8c0@lark> <003101c6e482$daaba040$f2358351@w4o8m9> <000f01c6e48b$590191e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Gasparik, Richard" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2006 14:45:51.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[205174A0:01C6E49F] X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.662,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6E49F.200E8A88" Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: NEW QRM X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4087 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E49F.200E8A88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF group... =20 It's true, 100kW near Budapest make a strange QRM in lower part of = 136kc. I'm about 100km from Budapest and is unpossible to do anything in = CW band. On 137.7 is OK. Time to go QRT? =20 Rich OM2TW ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org on behalf of Alan Melia Sent: so 30. 9. 2006 14:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: NEW QRM Hi Jim I think I may have got the telegram timing wrong I guess it was = 10 secs when I watched....too sleepy. I dont think it will be DCF36 that = might offend the Hungarians a bit...it will probably have to something like = HGF36 I think. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz To: Sent: 30 September 2006 12:23 Subject: LF: RE: NEW QRM > Dear LF Group, > > Also have heard the new "DCF36" (or whatever it will be called) transmitting > FSK bursts for the first time here this morning - previously I have = only > heard a carrier from this station. With 300Hz RX BW, the telegrams are quite > objectionable at 136.0kHz, but not really audible at 136.5kHz. I guess = if > you are in DL or further east in Europe, it is probably audible = further up > the band. On the spectrogram, the upper FSK frequency does seem to be right > on top of SXV, as Alan says. At the moment, they are transmitting telegrams > every 10s or so, like DCF39, which is a bit of a relief. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E49F.200E8A88 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjQOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAFAAAAFJFOiBSZTogUkU6IE5FVyBR Uk0A7QQBBYADAA4AAADWBwkAHgAQAC0AMwAGAHoBASCAAwAOAAAA1gcJAB4AEAAtADMABgB6AQEJ gAEAIQAAAEIzMDgyMUI1RkIxNTA2NDRCMUVDRDQ1REVGRjMzNkMxAEAHAQOQBgCgEQAAOAAAAAMA NgAAAAAAQAA5AIiKDiCf5MYBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAUkU6IAAAAAACAUcAAQAAADAAAABjPURFO2E9 Q0FFO3A9U0NOO2w9QlRTUzAyMEEtMDYwOTMwMTQ0NTUxWi0yNDE0NQAeAEkAAQAAABQAAABMRjog UmU6IFJFOiBORVcgUVJNAEAATgCAJ1dVi+TGAR4AWgABAAAAIwAAAG93bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZfZ3Jv dXBAYmxhY2tzaGVlcC5vcmcAAAIBWwABAAAAYwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAG93 bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZfZ3JvdXBAYmxhY2tzaGVlcC5vcmcAU01UUABvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3Vw 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