X-GM-THRID: 1214391521760789071 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4fc652e21117c65d4bbe5a178611b46f2879a94b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.250.20 with SMTP id x20cs866207qbh; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr10649565nfj; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si16670466nfc.2006.09.13.00.53.23; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GNPW6-00053F-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:50:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GNPW5-000536-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:50:41 +0100 Received: from relay.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.49] helo=relay.dstl.gov.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GNPW2-0000Wc-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:50:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 9961 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2006 08:49:59 +0100 Received: from warlock.dstl.gov.uk (192.5.29.10) by relay.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 13 Sep 2006 08:49:59 +0100 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D06D311D7@mail.dstl.gov.uk> From: Talbot Andrew To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:50:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.511,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: RE: Strange detector Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4308 If you're generating 1kW of real power, and feeding that into a -30dB antenna for your 1 Watt ERP, that gives 999 Watts of 'lost' power for you to extract and light up your bulb. Andy G4JNT (still lurking around low frequencies) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: 13 September 2006 01:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Strange detector what puzzles me is that you can energise a bulb [300 ma x 12.6volts?] at nearly 4 watts with an ERP of less than 1 watt...........;-)) G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" To: Sent: 11 September 2006 20:30 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Strange detector > You have been lucky so far. I would disconnect HF antenna pdq before > LF-ing. > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: 11 September 2006 13:49 > Subject: LF: RE: Strange detector > > > > Hi J & LF, > > > > I have a Yaesu FT-747GX & when I Tx LF I see a light shining out of > > the > back > > slots onto the wall from the Rx antenna fuse bulb. Yes the bulb is > > lit to > > full brilliance, the operation FT-747GX doesn't appear to have been > > effected. LF RF is being picked up on the HF antenna. > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of J. Allen > > Sent: 11 September 2006 05:38 > > To: LF (RSGB); LowFER at LW Cafe > > Subject: LF: Strange detector > > > > > > Haloo Group, > > > > I wonder how many here have similar oddities to share.... > > > > Another part of my hobby is contesting... I have a RAT PAK remote antenna > > switch which mounts on the tower which is used for LF. The RAT PAK > although > > not in use on LF has a set of six LEDs to indicate which antenna has been > > selected in the shack during HF operation. > > > > This is where the odd indication comes in. Whenever the LF > > transmitter keys, all six LEDs glow softly and the brilliance of the > > LEDs increase > with > > the power level. It makes a nice indicator that the beacon is > > working and > > putting out reasonable power. The first time I keyed down with more than > 50 > > watts, it was quite a surprise. 150 Watts glow at what looks like > > 1/10 of > > brilliance. > > > > Now lets calculate... if 400 watts turns out to really be 1 W ierp here, > > full brilliance would mean how many dB above legal limit? :o) > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely upon this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail." "Recipients should note that all e-mail traffic on MOD systems is subject to monitoring and auditing."