X-GM-THRID: 1214438974300945886 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b6ed05c51250a03fb6772ccd2cd946beb4f8c88a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.250.20 with SMTP id x20cs900369qbh; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr11367790nfi; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si7801815nfa.2006.09.13.14.06.29; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GNbtG-0007Qu-Em for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GNbtG-0007Ql-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:26 +0100 Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GNbtC-0006jU-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B941D77B9 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8B61D7718 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBDA2CAAD2; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC5F2CAAAD for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D70901A9833; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 82.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (82.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.36.82]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:45 +0200 Message-ID: <20060913230245.6vey5ix98k8ccg4k@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:02:45 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006a01c6d771$a53c3320$20be3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <006a01c6d771$a53c3320$20be3b3e@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.36.82 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: the use of long radials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5503 Dick, if it is meant for the LX-expedition: I found out that, probably due to the many trees near the antenna, the loss resistance did not improve when increasing the number of radials beyond the initial 4 x 30m (I gave up at 8 radials of 30m each). 73, Rik Quoting Dick : > Anyone knows if it makes sence to use some long radials 100-300m long > in combination with a spiral-coil toploaded vertical with 4x20m > toploading wires. > Or is this just wasting time and wire...... > > Dick, pa4vhf Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm