X-GM-THRID: 1214340522046595664 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 911911506f531426bf2d40a3381aa9d38eba5afb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.250.20 with SMTP id x20cs837410qbh; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr10006048nff; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si4843746nfa.2006.09.12.11.22.45; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GNCr8-0002JA-TH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:19:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GNCr8-0002J1-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:19:34 +0100 Received: from smtp4.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.91]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GNCr4-0002KY-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:19:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 21751 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2006 18:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.134]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 12 Sep 2006 18:18:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c6d697$50508da0$86be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:14:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.291,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: top loaded vertical and trees?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6D6A8.130FF320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4319 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6D6A8.130FF320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this question has been around a while ago, but can't remember = exactly. What about running an toploaded vertical in the middle of an wood? It will be a 12m vertical wire, with an flat, pancake shaped coil on = top, and additional at least 4 toploading wires each 20m long, supported by trees....... So, nearest tree will be over 25m away from antenna. What about negative influence (attentuation) caused by the trees? I'm asking this because it might be rather difficult to find a free = place for the antenna in LX. (We will be QRV 136kHz upto 10m, so lot of antennas, masts around ,hi) Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6D6A8.130FF320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this question has been around a = while ago,=20 but can't remember exactly.

What about running an toploaded = vertical in the=20 middle of an wood?

It will be a 12m vertical wire, with an = flat,=20 pancake shaped coil on top, and additional at least 4 toploading=20 wires

each 20m long, supported by=20 trees.......

So, nearest tree will be over 25m away = from=20 antenna.

What about negative influence = (attentuation) caused=20 by the trees?

I'm asking this because it might be = rather=20 difficult to find a free place for the antenna in LX.

(We will be QRV 136kHz upto 10m, so lot = of=20 antennas, masts around ,hi)

Dick, pa4vhf

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