X-GM-THRID: 1212169528973838760 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 672010f8b5159ddf4ccce3dfdf93b7715ba0180f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86099qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5606724nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si672835nfb.2006.08.19.12.15.46; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWFs-00017L-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWFr-00017C-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:11 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEWFn-0007QP-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 65722 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2006 19:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.167 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2006 19:13:00 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:14:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.125,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C3CC.03CDC700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4801 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C3CC.03CDC700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, Mal, LF, The 74LS161 is a schottky TTL programmable divider, that will divide by any number up to 16. There's a 74HCT161 device that does exactly the same thing, if you prefer CMOS. I've attached a scrap of the circuit showing you how to wire it up to divide by 12, 13 or 14. If anyone on the reflector wants a copy of the complete circuit (3579 > 234/137 kHz), let me know and I'll send it direct (750kb Word document) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 19 August 2006 13:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Thanks for this info Dave. Of course I have these x-tals; they also been used regulary for 80m fox hunting TX's. Biggest problem however, is to divide by 13........ I do not have to much schematics about dividers. I found another solution, hi I took an 4.433MHz X-tal and tuned it down to 4406kHz...... That divided by 16 will give me the 275.4kHz I need to drive the rest of the circuit. Any schematics/links about how to divide by 13 are welcome. I'll be on this afternoon 14-15ut on 136.550kHz +/- 50Hz with CW 8wpm beacon mode. Maybe, one of these days my signal might show up around 137.7 in QRSS 3...... 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