X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 415cef14821f137cbb6006a9f6cb94ce8818c210 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs128082qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr4462404nfl; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si4396811nfb.2006.08.11.13.42.23; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdnJ-0001Fi-Bk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdnI-0001FX-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBdnE-0006GP-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:48 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-64.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.64] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GBdnB-000Abx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:41 +0100 Message-ID: <010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:40:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5211 By all means put a wire in the middle for extra pf. but the z shape will make no difference I think. Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each top wire Bryan g3gvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: 11 August 2006 20:45 Subject: LF: antenna: how to get max. capacity Hello all, In order to test my 136kHz TX at home, I just have installed a toploaded wire in the backgarden. It measured only 135pF, which is too low, because need around 10mH to get that running on 136...... System is as follows: 2 wires each 7.5m long mounted parallel (spacing 30cm), at both ends connected together, and in the center connected together. >From the center an about 7m long wire goes vertical downward to the TX. Any suggestions how to get more capacitance in the air? I am limited in options, because the topload has an maximum length of 7.5m, and maximum width of 1m. Some ideas I have: -opening up the ends -adding a third wire in de middle, feed it there and then bending the rest, a kind of Z-shapped topload, center fed. Would be happy to get 40 - 50pF extra up in the air....... 73 Dick, PA4VHF