X-GM-THRID: 1209220135401178140 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8db5b38a583f7366211104edd94e20caaa29ccfd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.243.13 with SMTP id q13cs138824qbh; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.1 with SMTP id p1mr330331nfp; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si427920nfc.2006.07.17.22.56.25; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G2iW0-0005Z2-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:53:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G2iVy-0005Yt-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:53:03 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.206]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G2iVu-0003f2-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:53:02 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.141]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:52:30 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.66.98 by BAY118-DAV3.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:52:25 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.66.98] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: References: <009f01c6aa0e$aedf1f40$6501a8c0@eagles> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:52:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:52:24 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0029.3000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2006 05:52:30.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B4C6A70:01C6AA2E] X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.869,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Re: RF Ammeter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0638_01C6AA04.6F32F740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5132 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0638_01C6AA04.6F32F740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would try a wet tile saw, the kind you use to cut floor tiles for the = wife...LOL!!! Mike WE0H WD2XGI ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. Allen To: LF (RSGB)=20 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: LF: RF Ammeter Scott and Friends, The ammeter check results are in.... Dead Meter. I went over the antenna connections cleaning and soldering and a small = amount of retuning was required. Someone asked how things are set up now... There are two coil forms involved. On the first is a bifilar winding = with=20 ten turns each for the coaxial feed and for the antenna feed. One end = of=20 each of these windings is grounded. The second form has the loading inductor for the antenna. It consists = of a=20 single layer close wound solenoid with 40 turns of ~16 Formvar coated = wire=20 two inches long and 10-3/4 inches in diameter. The entire coil = exactly=20 resonates the antenna, without taps and without using the Variometer. It is a very simple and straightforward setup. The fact that there = should=20 be a lower antenna resistance bothers me, but NOT enough to play with = it.=20 That antenna plays. I may make up an antenna current meter from the = LF=20 Today book. What cuts the toroid core material and leaves a sooth cut = or am=20 I dreaming? J.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0638_01C6AA04.6F32F740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would try a wet tile saw, the kind you use to cut floor tiles for = the=20 wife...LOL!!!
 
Mike
WE0H
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----- Original Message -----
From: J. Allen
To: LF (RSGB)
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 = 9:05 PM
Subject: LF: RF Ammeter

Scott and Friends,

The ammeter check results are = in....=20 Dead Meter.

I went over the antenna connections cleaning and = soldering=20 and a small
amount of retuning was required.

Someone asked = how=20 things are set up now...

There are two coil forms = involved.  On=20 the first is a bifilar winding with
ten turns each for the coaxial = feed=20 and for the antenna feed.  One end of
each of these windings = is=20 grounded.

The second form has the loading inductor for the=20 antenna.  It consists of a
single layer close wound solenoid = with 40=20 turns of ~16 Formvar coated wire
two inches long and 10-3/4 inches = in=20 diameter.  The entire coil exactly
resonates the antenna, = without=20 taps and without using the Variometer.

It is a very simple and=20 straightforward setup.  The fact that there should
be a lower = antenna=20 resistance bothers me, but NOT enough to play with it.
That = antenna=20 plays.  I may make up an antenna current meter from the LF =
Today=20 book.  What cuts the toroid core material and leaves a sooth cut = or am=20
I dreaming?

J. =



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