X-GM-THRID: 1208214225480177241 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1e456a5619b33b13bd3eab37d6eebd04cea48b99 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs180403qbh; Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr962679nfq; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si8805998nfc.2006.07.06.20.27.55; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fygx7-0007tb-5h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 04:24:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fygx6-0007tS-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 04:24:24 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fygx2-00027I-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 04:24:24 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 3D1471063F for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <006001c6a174$cfe29890$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <20060706221438.67409.qmail@web86503.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 03:24:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.132,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Antenna Tuning Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5028 The tower is grounded at its base at this time, but is up on insulators and can be ungrounded easily by disconnecting a 1/0 grounding conductor. The vertical portion of the antenna is a piece of coaxial cable spaced about 4 feet away from the tower. Still no luck finding the first resonant point. All points have been checked from 20 kHz through 250 kHz. It acts like I have a big capacitor connected to the end of the coax. At the base of the antenna, I have installed a relay and can switch between the dummy load and the antenna base loading network. Whatever is wrong is wrong on the antenna side of that relay. If the dummy load is put on the other connector it acts as a dummy should, so the problem is not in the relay or its connection. If I substitute a lumped constant for the antenna, the traces are as expected with the scope. I just do not seem to be able to find a resonant point using a frequency divider and tiny amp. The scope traces are either sine wave traces but with the voltage and current out of phase, or else really convoluted forms which are in phase. I am still at step one. How to I get the two waveforms to coincide and at the same time have them look like sinewaves? Any ideas where to go with this now? "J"