X-GM-THRID: 1209350921707962828 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a2fd215692ac9ecc348309a22945e85b8151b615 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.243.13 with SMTP id q13cs184349qbh; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.9 with SMTP id p9mr1819688nfh; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si1600421nfa.2006.07.19.09.35.12; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G3Ex4-0001Iv-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:31:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G3Ex3-0001Im-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:31:09 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G3Ewy-0001FP-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:31:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 38742 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 16:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.125.189 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 16:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c6ab50$9379bc40$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000d01c6ab39$8ebd6420$0300a8c0@lark> <054701c6ab4e$b81069c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:29:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.900 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Interesting Loran effect Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6069 Hi Peter, yes I think I have seen that before when we were experimenting. As you say this looks totally different. I do have some Spectran and Argo screen grabs. The strange thing was the approximately 1.5Hz spacing, which doesnt seem to relate at all to Loran. Its been off for sometime now. It sounded Loranish but any pulse system probably would sound similar, and the strength on the 3 sec Argo screen looked about right for Rugby. Strange...... Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Martinez To: Sent: 19 July 2006 17:16 Subject: LF: Re: Interesting Loran effect > From G3PLX: > > Alan: > > When the LORAN master goes faulty (or is turned off for whatever reason), > the slaves blink the first two pulses at 3.5 sec intervals, which would show > as a filling-in of all the spaces between LORAN lines with extra lines at > about 0.3Hz spacing. I have seen this happen before (see previous postings, > May I think). However, I wouldn't expect this to show any 'clumping' effects > at a specific frequency. At various times the master may switch off or blink > it's 9th pulse, or even key it with morse code, but I wouldn't expect that > to show any spectrally-pure artefacts either. > > Is it possible that it was an emission not related to LORAN at all? Just > something that produced similar-looking lines? > > 73 > Peter > >