X-GM-THRID: 1209071788676587808 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6db4c7f99ed5ef26b291c8c8a1c507ae284e2172 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.243.13 with SMTP id q13cs98507qbh; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.1.9 with SMTP id d9mr1450692nfi; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si757099nfa.2006.07.16.15.48.57; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G2FMs-0004s7-5C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:45:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G2FMr-0004ry-8f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:45:41 +0100 Received: from grunt13.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.60]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G2FMn-0000PW-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:45:41 +0100 Received: from 203-109-180-150.dialup.ihug.co.nz (cobaltxp) [203.109.180.150] by grunt13.ihug.co.nz with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1G2FMh-0006vy-00; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:45:31 +1200 Message-ID: <003901c6a929$8ab886a0$ae1bfea9@cobaltxp> From: "Murray ZL1BPU" To: References: <006c01c6a89d$40ec7d10$6501a8c0@eagles> <001001c6a8c7$53154920$56217ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:45:30 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.132 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DFCW on TS450 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6598 Folks, I find it difficult to understand why one would want to generate DFCW with up-down buttons, when there are plenty of ways to do it reliably with audio. It would be quite trivial to write a BASIC program that generated sound out the PC speaker, and of course sound card methods would be straight-forward to one of the Windows programming experts. A few years ago I wrote a DOS program which does this type of thing. I have three other suggestions: First, build my LF Exciter (see www.qsl.net/zl1bpu) and use the direct output to drive the mic input of the rig via an attenuator. This output is flat down to DC, and you can easily set up a beacon script to send DFCW at an audio frequency (say 1kHz) rather than at LF. The Exciter runs many modes, which can be mixed in the script. There is also a real-time PC program for the Exciter which will control it in all the available modes. The Exciter now includes a new DFCW variant I call 'Castle' which is about 20% faster for the same dot duration (needs no inter-element spaces at all). If you are lucky enough to have one of those nice little FEI Rubidium Synthesizers (FE-5650A), I have a PC control program which allows you to send DFCW, Castle, S/MT-Hell and any other ASK or FSK mode you care to invent all the way from 5kHz to 20MHz. The other possibility is to use the method Jim suggested, but instead of using UP/DOWN controls, use the voltage from the DTR to change the frequency of a VCO. I'd recommend a sine-wave design such as one of the function generator chips, but even a venerable 555 would do. It has a pin designed for frequency modulation. 73, Murray ZL1BPU