X-GM-THRID: 1208417185678541492 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73bf0949060b07394b7519883e8195b8fdc118b6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs229726qbh; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 03:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.61.3 with SMTP id o3mr2786432nfk; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si11264562nfc.2006.07.09.03.14.30; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FzWFn-0000vr-SB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 11:11:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FzWFn-0000vi-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 11:11:07 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FzWFj-0003Ro-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 11:11:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 52517 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2006 10:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.15.36?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.15.36 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2006 10:09:57 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.9.10/383]); Sun, 09 Jul 2006 11:07:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01c6a33f$778c7a40$240f8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000e01c6a30c$3e84bf60$6501a8c0@eagles> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 11:07:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.291 Subject: LF: Re: transformer question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4913 Dear J, LF Group, I have been following your antenna problems with interest, and am glad to hear you are finally QRV! As far as the transformer design goes - don't change anything yet... With the windings you describe, the transformer will certainly be having a significant effect on the impedance transformation of the overall network, and so if you start making substantial changes to the transformer, you will quite probably lose the impedance match. So although the transformer may be less than ideal, best to leave well alone for now! It is difficult to make any useful comment about possible improvements to the tuning system without knowing what the current tuning system is exactly. Re-reading your previous e-mails, the variometer is connected between antenna and ground, with a link winding to couple it to the coax; I imagine the link is connected between the coax inner and ground. Presumably the link winding is wound around the variometer somehow - could you describe something about it's dimensions, number of turns, position relative to variometer windings? I can't really visualise where the isolating transformer would be connected in the system (or what it would isolate, as far as impedance matching is concerned), so perhaps you could describe how that is connected. Will be looking out for your signals next time you are QRV, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Allen To: LF (RSGB) ; Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 5:00 AM Subject: LF: transformer question > Alan and All, > > Alan, you were concerned about the transformer that was added between the > coax and the loading coil at the base of the 137 kHz. antenna. Here > follow-up to your question. > > If you remember it is a bifilar winding of ten turns which takes up on inch > length on a 10-3/4 inch form. >