X-GM-THRID: 1209340578046560223 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1850959f2c2c31e75020293af66b5dd507f44003 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.243.13 with SMTP id q13cs178591qbh; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr1665292nfv; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si700826nfc.2006.07.19.06.50.48; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G3CMc-00006z-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:45:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G3CMc-00006q-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:45:22 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3CMZ-0006k2-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:45:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 28939 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 13:45:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.82.233 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 13:45:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c6ab39$8ebd6420$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:45:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.609 Subject: LF: Interesting Loran effect Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5061 I have not been very active with my waterfall displays recently but I was running Spectran on 137 this afternoon and noticed that when my local TVs had stopped watching the News (or Daily Politics !! unlikely this hot weather) I had an interesting and unusual "clumping" of what I took to be Loran lines at 137.0 and 136.0 kHz. The modulation sidebands seemed to be about 1.5Hz apart. I wondered about local interference but the lines are very stable, but odd frequencies for Loran. the signal stopped at 1342 and then returned some minutes later. Maybe this is one of the "error" signals indicating that not all transmitters are active. I have not tried running Peter's Loran program which isolates the different stations on a GRP. Loran is usually much more uniform than this but there is a high static level here. I do hope that means some showers here !! The clumps are still visible at 14:44 BST (1344z) Cheers de Alan G3NYK