X-GM-THRID: 1207985134118005507 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b69bc0285c84083dc06b4210914ebbd38e07d821 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs102162qbh; Tue, 4 Jul 2006 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.9 with SMTP id w9mr3530032nfi; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si396907nfe.2006.07.04.07.46.35; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fxm5u-0007Rx-CN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 15:41:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fxm5t-0007Ro-V4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 15:41:41 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fxm5p-0007Ky-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 15:41:41 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id ABF425089 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000901c69f77$db074850$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <001101c69f68$fa306a90$6501a8c0@eagles> <001801c69f70$bef1a9a0$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:40:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.147,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Antenna Tuning Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5060 Alan, Steve and All, Thanks for the feedback. The antenna is basically an inverted-L antenna. Using approximate dimensions, the vertical portion is a 110 foot tower, but the attachment point for the horizontal is down at about 100 feet. The horizontal is composed of two, 390 foot long wires that form a V with the included angle of about 50 degrees. The ends of the L wires are supported at about 70 feet and 63 feet and the wires are single span and have bout 10 or 12 feet of sag for stress. The antenna is over a set of about 30, #11 radials of various lengths from 30 to 1200 feet in length. The soil is very dry sand in a flat in the bottom bowl formed by mountains. The antenna is fed through about 250 feet of 50 Ohm hard line from the shack. At the base of the antenna, the vertical portion terminates at the input of a Variometer the other end of which ties to the radial ground system. The variometer is currently link coupled to the coaxial cable, but the problem was there when the grounded side of the variometer was tapped up like an autotransformer, and also when the antenna was fed through a very large roller inductor / autotransformer. In fact there have been a number of different feed methods tried and all failed. If I am not mistaken, the antenna calculated at about 1500 pF. Nothing I have tried to date has resulted in successful tuning. The most power I have been able to sustain is about 30 Watts. Higher power has always resulted in smoke. The main limiting factor in all this work is the operator... I have symptoms of early Alzheimer's Disease, and get confused about what I am doing or where I am in a process. A written step by step which I could check off as I go would be a great asset. It is important to the Canadian and possible future US amateur plans for a LF portion on 137 that I be successful here. We have great resistance from the power companies with their Power Line Carrier systems here. I am fortunate that I live in one of the two areas of Canada where 137 kHz is used for PLC, and the central purpose of my experiments is to get the station up to full power and show compatibility of PLC and amateur radio. I have had really wonderful support from Steve and Scott, and have both of the UK LF books as guides but still cannot seem to get the antenna tuned. I am familiar with the use of an oscilloscope and maintained the PLC system which I am demonstrating non-interference with. As soon as I can get the antenna tuned properly, I can run the power level up and begin beaconing essentially 24/7 for the remaining months of our experiments. Has anyone produced a very detailed first time tuning guide for beginners like me? I am about 1000 miles away from the closest assistance (VE7SL/VE7TIL) Thanks again, JA VY1JA