X-GM-THRID: 1205553291555435496 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fc16b699fb7f87b5cd508837fffe3e8d2c419847 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs17762wrc; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.19 with SMTP id i19mr1227371nfg; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si1825098nfc.2006.06.08.01.26.15; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FoFnK-0005OP-Te for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:23:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FoFnK-0005OG-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:23:10 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48] helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FoFnG-0003JZ-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:23:10 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060608081916.QGON29040.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:16 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060608081916.OLOT16286.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:16 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:19:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4487EB8A.27171.B415B8@localhost> In-reply-to: <001501c68a76$9c02c8c0$0200a8c0@AUG2004> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.987,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: BBC 198kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5165 Thanks to all those who responded to my query about the apparent errors seen on frequency standards. I am now convinced my problem is caused by frequency error in my TS- 850. Looking at several standards, the errors are as follows (relative to an arbitrary zero): 60.0kHz: -1.0Hz 75.0kHz: -0.8Hz 77.5kHz: -0.7Hz 162kHz: -0.1Hz 198kHz: +0.1Hz 490kHz (using my LF Tx DDS) +3.0Hz Plotting this on a graph shows approximately a straight line. This indicates a progressive error as frequency increases. As a quick fix, I can now use the graph to determine the readings at 198 and 60kHz that will give me a zero offset at 136kHz. However, is there a more permanent way of overcoming this problem? Mike, G3XDV ========== > Nothing unusual seen here - checked against my Rb standard. > Walter G3JKV.