X-GM-THRID: 1206468337327875273 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b504a10cb214d6de927076f725c7d71c42b294bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs3479wrc; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.237.14 with SMTP id k14mr4551642nfh; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si5581679nfb.2006.06.18.03.19.43; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FruFx-00022n-B9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FruFw-00022e-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:48 +0100 Received: from smtp2.orange.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FruFt-0000BZ-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:48 +0100 Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-3-139.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.134.139]) by mwinf0201.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5CA061C0045F for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:11:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060618101138379.5CA061C0045F@mwinf0201.orange.fr Message-ID: <200606181211010924.3E63BC0E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000701c69250$2a7cd1a0$0ec828c3@captbrian> References: <000701c69233$ce4c92b0$17e4fc3e@g3kev> <000701c69250$2a7cd1a0$0ec828c3@captbrian> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:11:01 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.173,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF LOW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5962 See Mal's remarks below: where are the black box appliances which I can buy= for 136kHz? Or walkie-talkies for 1.3GHz? If you can't buy commercial equipment, you have to build it. Perhaps Mal= would regard the above bands and the higher microwave ones as the last= refuge of "real" amateur radio. For my part, I have noticed in recent= years an upsurge of operation on 7MHz CW by M3s. As far as the ability to build something is concerned, I believe the= Intermediate and Full UK licence exam require candidates to build= something. Last year my local radio club in Suffolk was going through a= Health & Safety review because the students needed to be able to solder. F5VLF/G3PAI >----- Original Message ----- >From: "hamilton mal" >To: "rsgb" >Sent: 17 June 2006 18:30 >Subject: LF: LF LOW > > >> LF seems to be an all time low, no acty at all recently, it is hardly >worth >> the effort.The internet and mobile phones seem to be a better bet, >followed >> by vhf/uhf then hf if you want to talk to someone. >> Most operators are now appliance ops, no cw or technical skills required >any >> more.The norm now is buy a box, plug in and go. In fact most amateurs >today >> cannot solder, or even change a fuse, hardly amateur radio. >> >> 73 G3KEV >> >> on >> >> >>