X-GM-THRID: 1206995943564434036 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5d42d10fc69082914e4ec57b2aac3b4fe909d04f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs60924wrc; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.18 with SMTP id h18mr2623443nfk; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si3140612nfa.2006.06.23.09.43.50; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ftog0-0004wU-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:38:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ftog0-0004wL-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:38:36 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Ftofx-00014w-5J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:38:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 78754 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2006 16:38:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.54.253 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2006 16:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c696e3$74317a20$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <521.130bed0.31cc71fb@aol.com> <002301c69690$4cd321c0$5ac428c3@captbrian> <200606231019250198.1433C814@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <005f01c696a6$b55dd1c0$5ac428c3@captbrian> <449C03E7.9010007@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:38:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.473 Subject: LF: Top-fed LF antenna idea Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5368 >From G3PLX: Some of you may have seen my letter in the current RadCom, which suggests that reports of unusually good performance of the electrically-small 'EH' antennas may be the result of them being mounted on top of a tall structure, and are effectively top-feeding the whole thing. It occurs to me that this might be a useful experiment to try on 136kHz if someone is able to operate 'portable' from the top of a suitable structure, like a telecom tower or the Eifel or Blackpool towers. What would be needed would be some sort of capacity-hat, such as a fishing rod (or two) sticking out into clear space from the top of the tower. It need not be vertical, so long as most of it was clear of the structure. This would then be resonated at the operating frequency and the whole thing fed against some metallic part of the structure. Assuming the tower is one with public access, there should be AC power up there from which to run the equipment, and the safety ground wire of this should be sufficient, or there may be an acessible lightning conductor. The capacity hat would inevitably be quite small and therefore the inductor losses will be high, but against that there will be an enormous benefit because a lot of the 'resistance' in the ground connection will be good quality radiation resistance. We should be able to calculate what this is from the height of the structure, and remember that we can assume that the current up the tower will be fairly constant and not dropping linearly to zero at the top like a base-fed tower would be, so the effective height is the actual height, not half of it. The e.m.r.p. can then be calculated from the product of this radiation resistance and the square of the current flowing into the capacity hat. I am sure the principle is sound. Is it worth a try? 73 Peter