X-GM-THRID: 1205288411547523236 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7d9d84b843c0e1f6158150deec2e5149d69af9d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs2971wrc; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.226.14 with SMTP id y14mr297941nfg; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si4645383nfc.2006.06.04.13.23.21; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fmz4W-0006Sc-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:19:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fmz4V-0006ST-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:19:39 +0100 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.161] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmz4R-00062r-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:19:39 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.158) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44742A670016D50E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:19:19 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c68814$28ebbfe0$9ee8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:14:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.093,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: LF: DQ2006S Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6811 Hi All Dave G3WCB remarked when I worked Frank with the above call he could not hear the stn who gave me 579 and I gave him 569. A good percentage of LF operators have a problem on receive, local noise, loran qrm depending on location and in some cases poor antennas barely adequate for the job. The reason that I can hear stns at good strength and they can hear me is because I have spent a lot of time perfecting my antenna system. I have the choice of two antennas on RX. A 80metre perimiter vert quad loop resonated on 137 khz, E/W, top wire at 70 ft and my vertical sytstem at over 100 ft used also for TX. I have several receivers including a couple of Level Meter type and some are better than others but currently I am using a RX designed to cover LF (HAGENUK BLU EE430) this covers 10 Khz - 30Mhz and is very sensitive on 137 Khz and does not need an external preamp with the loop. Because of my northerly qth I am far enough away from loran qrm coming from the south, so its not a problem although it is visible on the vertical but on the E/W loop it is barely detectable. Although small loops and match box verticals with amplifiers work especially with good propagation conditions the large antennas with more capture area will have the edge when conditions are marginal or poor. The same applies on the other hf bands, the man with a 6ele quad or several elements on a large boom yagi up at 100ft has an enormous advantage over those using dipoles or verticals. I have not been active on LF recently, been away on a DXpedition using HF and VHF, 6 metres has been good lately. 73 de Mal/G3KEV