X-GM-THRID: 1205553291555435496 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 878e278ad7ad0cab7165fb918262fbba6f41dc4b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs18486wrc; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr410926hus; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 4si351939hud.2006.06.08.02.01.02; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FoGIy-0005Z6-2c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:55:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FoGIx-0005Yx-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:55:51 +0100 Received: from ns1.switchnet.com ([209.59.197.26] helo=server.switchnet.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FoGIs-0005yq-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:55:51 +0100 Received: from dan75-1-81-57-233-115.fbx.proxad.net ([81.57.233.115] helo=parissn2) by server.switchnet.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FoGIq-0005qt-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:55:44 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c68ad9$abbe7580$0702a8c0@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: References: <4487EB8A.27171.B415B8@localhost> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:58:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.switchnet.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: Re: LF: BBC 198kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5164 Hi Mike, I know nothing about the TS-850, but almost all radios have a trimmer capacitor or other adjustment for the main reference oscillator. If you set that properly, the slope of your tuning error should be nearly zero. If the (now constant) error is significant, there might be an adjustment for the 2nd or 3rd mixer LO, if that is not derived from the main reference. On some radios, there is a small residual offset (usually caused by a firmware bug) that can't be corrected. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: LF: BBC 198kHz > Thanks to all those who responded to my query about the apparent > errors seen on frequency standards. > > I am now convinced my problem is caused by frequency error in my TS- > 850. Looking at several standards, the errors are as follows > (relative to an arbitrary zero): > 60.0kHz: -1.0Hz > 75.0kHz: -0.8Hz > 77.5kHz: -0.7Hz > 162kHz: -0.1Hz > 198kHz: +0.1Hz > 490kHz (using my LF Tx DDS) +3.0Hz > Plotting this on a graph shows approximately a straight line. This > indicates a progressive error as frequency increases. > > As a quick fix, I can now use the graph to determine the readings at > 198 and 60kHz that will give me a zero offset at 136kHz. However, is > there a more permanent way of overcoming this problem? > > Mike, G3XDV > ==========