X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a91cfd96ef4802a4bb76388d180f07d5be691d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs44131wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr1311897nfe; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si7231780nfc.2006.05.12.10.45.42; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FebfL-0002Uo-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:43:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FebfL-0002Uf-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:43:03 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fed9z-00078V-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:18:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 63337 invoked from network); 12 May 2006 17:42:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.69.153 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2006 17:42:57 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c675eb$8102b340$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:42:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.319 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5701 >From G3PLX: Mike: Be careful about using colour-fading as a guide to the performance of rope in sunlight - the differences tell you more about the pigment used than the UV resistance of the rope itself. Anything coloured red will fade quickly. Blue pigment takes longer to fade. The pigment most resistant to UV is black. Black also is by far the best pigment to prevent the UV from affecting the underlying structure, and white is the worst. This means that, regardless of the intrinsic UV-resistance of the basic material, almost ANYTHING which is loaded with a black pigment, or is painted black, will be highly resistant to UV. On the other hand, if you really want it white or a light colour, then you may need to go into more detail to discover what the basic material is made of. My antenna came down the other day in a high wind, but it was quite clear that it had suffered UV degradation over 11 years. It was a white polypropylene rope with a white polycarbonate jacket (sold as washing line!) but the jacket had almost completely broken up and the UV had attacked the inner rope. I replaced it with more of the same because I still had some left from when I first put it up. I don't know if you can get black polypropylene but that's what I would recommend you try to find. 73 Peter