X-GM-THRID: 1203385428772823360 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 27a57105cde5e87f9fe21ce2a73ca0c48ec4ac51 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6515wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.49.14 with SMTP id b14mr1698487nfk; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si9810323nfe.2006.05.14.13.16.15; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMz7-0002Lp-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:14:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMz7-0002Lg-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:14:37 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfOUn-0003Lp-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:51:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 21558 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 2006 20:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.70]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 May 2006 20:14:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c67791$b365e300$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:58:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.959,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: 'meter problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5636 Hello all, I almost finished my new 136kHz transmitter, and after several hours of fault-finding it seems to work upto 600-700Watt DC input. However, I do have a 'problem' .......... Instead of using a 200uA meter for the forward and returned power, I'm using a 10mA meter. This 10mA meter needs 53mV for full scale, internal resistance somewhere around 6 Ohm. When I put this meter into the G0MRF design it is a to heavy load for the measurement circuit. Open voltage drops from 13V to almost 0 V due to the low internal resistamce. This also effects the SWR protection circuit........ So, I did some experiments by using a FET or transistor as a driver for the meter. The measurment circuit voltage is almost not effected by the meter circuit now, however it is very difficult to find a good setpoint for the meter....... i.e when doubling the power, the meter must read also twice the power. Somehow I'm not able to get the right linearity or what ever. Anyone out there with a circuit diagram that does work? or suggestions. It is difficult to exchange the meter because I cannot easily reach the mountingscrews anymore..... So I have to use this 10mA meter........ 73 Dick, PA4VHF