X-GM-THRID: 1199539128024826135 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 16abbf149dea35d0a18cb0ab6643b29cb7c79395 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.18 with SMTP id u18cs7206wra; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 19:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.235.7 with SMTP id i7mr187098nfh; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si359018nfa.2006.04.02.19.34.31; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FQErE-0003wp-WE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:31:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FQErE-0003wg-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:31:56 +0100 Received: from avalon.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FQG2a-0005lb-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:47:45 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by avalon.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k332UlOS024770 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:00:47 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k332UlvZ027753 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:00:47 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k332UlvR030199; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:00:47 -0230 (NDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:00:46 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.190 Subject: Re: LF: T/A April 2 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5933 Hi Laurence, Yes, there is a jump in sensitivity when the internal preamp is switched out (IPO on). This is again probably because of the inappropriate reactances (for LF) in the preamp. I was listening to 80m on the miniwhip this evening and was impressed with what I heard, considering the whip was just hanging from the ceiling in the shack. Can you tell me about the L400b? 73 Joe On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Laurence KL1X wrote: > Joe - on 137Khz does your sensitivity improve with the IPO enabled on the > 817...? its very deaf without a lot of drive but with the L400b eprobe it > shoves enough signal - without it and on my loop arrays I needed something > like 20dB gain to get things "hot". I agree on the modification! > > Laurence KL1X in 5 > okie em26br > > > > from the manual - > "IPO (Intercept Point Optimization) - Bypasses RX Preamp on HF/50 MHz for > improved performance during strong-signal conditions." > > > >From: Joe Craig > >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >Subject: Re: LF: T/A April 2 > >Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:49:00 -0230 (NDT) > > > >Roelof and group, > > > >I was using an ft-817 with the miniwhip and was quite amazed that > >the LF TX could be heard at 20km. I will try the attenuator between the > >rig and the miniwhip next time to see if the intermod is from the RX. > >Thanks fort the suggestion. > > > >The ft817 is very deaf below 0.5 MHz because of the small inductive > >reactances in the front end and mixer xfmr I believe, but modifying > >it would be awkward because of its size. > > > >Joe > > > > > > > > > >