X-GM-THRID: 1200923833029268753 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 414e77c67807d9d13625865c93e111790009cfc2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs25914wra; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.9 with SMTP id y9mr1871448nfk; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si356468nfb.2006.04.17.12.12.22; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FVZ3w-0003WU-Gp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:07:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FVZ3v-0003WL-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:07:03 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FVaMQ-0003d6-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:30:17 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.148] (helo=mx5.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FVZ3r-0002KT-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:06:59 +0200 Received: from p5486b6c3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.182.195] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx5.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1FVZ3r-0001Ug-Ka for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:06:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4443E78D.7090103@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:07:57 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <36c.2896829.31752724@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <36c.2896829.31752724@aol.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.971 Subject: Re: LF: New transmitter being tested on 18.5 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6844 Hello Markus and group, Thanks for the interesting spectrograms... I especially like that camouflaged loop in the garden. > 73, and thanks for the Easter eggs and bunnies ;-) ... and to you for painting those eggs in various colours on your LF-RDF-spectrogram. Guess you were out in the garden at that time, and moved the loops ? Will be interesting to see if that directional VLF fading is related to the time of day, or if you caught a SID event by chance, and if similar things happened on LF the same time. My own bearings of the new 18.5 kHz transmitter only vary by a few degrees, but I'm just 8 wavelengths away from it ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF . > Hi Wolf and LF, > > very interesting. I have been observing 10 to 24 kHz for the last few > days, and of course stumbled across the 18.5 kHz transmissions as well > - screenshots are on http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/vlf/vlf_rdf.htm . > > The interesting thing is that on a crossed pair of loops, the new > emission seems to show MUCH more directional fading at night than its > counterpart on 23.4 kHz. The only explanation I can think of is that > they may be using a different kind of antenna, perhaps with long > horizontal conductors, producing more high angle radiation. > > 73, and thanks for the Easter eggs and bunnies ;-) > > Markus, DF6NM > > In einer eMail vom 17.04.2006 18:06:34 Westeurop�ische Sommerzeit > schreibt dl4yhf@freenet.de: > >> At this very moment (16:00 UTC), the folks at Saterland / NW DL are >> testing a new transmitter facility. >> They use unmodulated carrier as well as (G)MSK, ramping the power up and >> down from QRPPP levels to full throttle (whatever full throttle will be). >> The frequency is exactly 18.50000 kHz, and its quite sure to be the >> Ramsloh / Saterland facility (we RDF'd it already, and its very likely >> to be the DHO site). > > >