X-GM-THRID: 1201479282226314978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3125d8ab21316774dd67f9e93caaad6a80a8cc6e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs11608wra; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.12 with SMTP id y12mr2394271nfi; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si72475nfc.2006.04.23.17.49.09; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FXpEc-0004O3-1P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:47:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FXpEb-0004Nu-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:47:25 +0100 Received: from grunt13.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.60]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FXqa9-0008OI-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:13:47 +0100 Received: from 203-109-243-58.bliink.ihug.co.nz (athlon1200) [203.109.243.58] by grunt13.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FXpEV-000196-00; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:47:19 +1200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.4.5/322]); Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:44:28 +1200 Message-ID: <057b01c66738$3e091550$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <444AF315.9020304@telus.net> <056601c66732$7dba60b0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> <444C1A56.4060202@telus.net> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:44:28 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: PhaseScope beta 1.0 release... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5868 Scott, Murray Fine. Tks for replies. I'm not concerned about the RX stability contribution-that's under control (or should be!) But for non-GPS disciplined TXs I wondered just how good they would have to be to be able to be 'observed'-as in how much latitude there was for the transmitted frequency to be offset from the nominal. Seems like plus/minus 1 Hz may be the limit as per Scotts email, although as Murray points out, the phase info will probably be of no particular value for such sources, always assuming the source remains inside the above limits over the integration time. Possible 'targets' noted, Murray- Is there a source from Antarctica on exactly 20 kHz? I had a look for the 19.1 kHz TX down there last year but as it was only on for 60 seconds at a time every few minutes I didnt 'copy' it. Not sure if it's still running-must check. I'll get back to you re a test on 181.4 some time soon. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: PhaseScope beta 1.0 release... > Dave > > Your RX needs to be stable to within a Hz if it is Clicklock can > deal with the variations... If the RX is say 2 Hz off calibration > then simply offset the integer value set in phase scope to deal with > this... RX stability to within a Hz (+- 0.5Hz) is the most important > feature and most LF receivers do this well. Otherwise the Clicklock > alg. can deal with it... > > I'm sure Peter will go on and on about this shortly :-) > > Good luck. > Scott > > > Dave Brown wrote: >> Hi Scott >> Wondering just how close to nominal does the tx have to be >> maintained to stay 'in view' so to speak? >> 73 >> Dave, ZL3FJ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" >> >> To: "LWCA LF Reflector" ; >> >> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:23 PM >> Subject: LF: PhaseScope beta 1.0 release... >> >> >>> PhaseScope based on the 'Clicklock' algorithm by Peter Martinez, >>> G3PLX is now available for download and testing by interested >>> experimenters. >>> >>> Download the archive here: >>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/phasescope/ >>> >>> I have only tested it on a system running Windows XP. If you are >>> interested in a MAC or Linux build let me know as the API used and >>> the coding allows this... An earlier Linux alpha version was >>> tested successfully... >>> >>> The package comes with detailed instructions. >>> >>> Comments and bug reports encouraged. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/321 - Release Date: >>> 21/04/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: > 22/04/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 22/04/2006