X-GM-THRID: 1199366284791738298 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dfb6ccb2a73f0e1c94c25f46fa42cab888e77e5e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs997wra; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.13 with SMTP id h13mr41371nfi; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si573439nfc.2006.04.09.12.16.59; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FSfN0-0004QL-Rl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:14:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FSfN0-0004Q7-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:14:46 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FSh5n-0005Bt-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:05:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 91071 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2006 19:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.69.146 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2006 19:13:29 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c65c09$afc51e30$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <200603311839550854.021DC57E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <000601c65582$aefd8ec0$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> <8bf118410604040532gf1861f9r9dfaa0fe2d6f4be1@mail.gmail.com> <004501c657e5$b779fbf0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44395583.9070200@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 19:13:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.866 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby LORAN measurement? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6617 >From G3PLX: I don't think the presence of the spurious emission (near 60kHz) from the LORAN transmitter would cause any trouble to MSF itself. A quick calculation says that the nearest spurii from the Rugby LORAN transmitter to the MSF transmission would be respectively 8.9139804 Hz low and 5.94265 Hz high of 60kHz, and probably a long long way down on the main 60kHz carrier. Of course that doesn't say that there isn't some disturbance from the LORAN transmitter to the MSF transmitter due to non-linear effects arising because of the proximity of the two transmitters to each other. The NPL people might be more worried about that than the far-off sidebands which bother us up here. But if there were effects like this, the solution wouldn't help us at all. 73 Peter