X-GM-THRID: 1199366284791738298 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: de779433d3ac40769070f6f50d7af0c52fd08ed7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs36620wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr431389nfk; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si119945nfe.2006.03.31.08.42.42; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMfo-0003y4-6Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:40:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMfn-0003xv-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:40:31 +0100 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPOLC-0004yP-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:27:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 173E11C0008C for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:40:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-1-234.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.230.234]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA7581C00081; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:40:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060331164009960.EA7581C00081@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603311839550854.021DC57E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000001c654b6$49efa120$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <000001c654b6$49efa120$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:39:55 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: peter.kirby@rsgb.org.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.780 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby LORAN measurement? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6623 Do you know the time of day when there will be a break, please? I do not= expect to notice it in Burgundy but would like to see if I'm wrong. 73 John F/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 31/03/2006 at 13:28 John W Gould wrote: >Given that there may be a short break in LORAN transmission this coming >Tuesday I thought that I would post an e-mail requesting measurement of= the >background noise floor, whilst the Rugby transmitter is off, and a further >measurement when the Rugby LORAN signal re-appears. It would be helpful= if >this could be done in a number of locations around the UK, especially= where >the interference is significant, so that we can get a better picture as to >the extent of the problem. Unfortunately, I will be travelling on Tuesday >so won't be able to participate from my QTH in Newport Pagnell. > >I would like to be able to compare results from a number of sources, so it >may be best to calculate the difference between the noise level in say a >500Hz bandwidth with and without the Rugby LORAN transmission and thus >compare S/N. The other measurement that is probably worth doing is to >measure the S/N of one of the lines. Any other suggestions? > >On the complaint front the RSGB made an official approach last year and= had >a reply from Trinity House. However, at the time it looked as if the NELS >might close many of its LORAN transmitters at the end of 2005. Given that >this didn't happen, and the continuing nature of the problem from the= Rugby >transmitter, I feel that we now need to follow-up our initial approach,= and >perhaps widen our concerns, given that a proposal for an Amateur Secondary >allocation at 136kHz is on the agenda for WRC07. > >73 John, G3WKL >RSGB HF Manager