X-GM-THRID: 1197308156912698962 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 33aaab935e94c5dddc6ba5fbd0cef5d8b9324e01 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs26273wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with SMTP id g16mr537964qbf; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si407392qbc.2006.03.08.10.20.32; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3DT-0004ZC-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:16:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3DT-0004Z3-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:16:55 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH4kC-0005fd-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:55:08 +0000 Received: from [212.248.140.9] ([212.248.140.9]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k28ICKQ2023342 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:12:22 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.2.1/277]); Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:12:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:12:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.003,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Real QRP tests Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6728 Yes, I've now got a commercial synth that goes down to 100kHz in 1Hz steps which should solve your need for N/M Hz intervals. It can supply up to 13dBm so putting that into my (-36dBi) gain antenna may be enough. If not, can always add a quickie amplifier module You can either have the carrier derived from Caesium (2 - 3 hours notice needed) or from GPS (30 minutes notice) Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Martinez" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: LF: Real QRP tests > >From G3PLX: > > If there's anyone within about 500km from me at 54N 3W (i.e. daytime surface > wave range) who could transmit a few micro-watts of very stable (preferably > GPS-derived) carrier on 136kHz, I would like to run some tests with my new > GPS-locked reception scheme to see how low we can go and still detect that > there's something there. It may take some time to detect the signal, but > with that sort of low power there shouldn't be too much problem with leaving > the transmitter on for a day. A quick calculation says that 25mA r.m.s. of > antenna current into an average antenna should produce plenty enough signal. > That's only 150v rms or so, depending on the antenna. The more stable is > the signal, the lower down I should be able to detect it. > > Any one for QRPP? > > 73 > Peter G3PLX > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 2006-03-07 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08