X-GM-THRID: 1198666586430411008 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 45ae12058b6cb9aafdf83d28708c19917ba30d86 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs23406wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.3 with SMTP id p3mr271832qbn; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si86598qbd.2006.03.23.16.03.28; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMZkC-0007Qp-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:01:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMZkC-0007Qg-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:01:32 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMbMh-0003Ts-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:45:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 60026 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 00:01:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.104.252?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.104.252 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 00:01:10 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.3.0/290]); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:59:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c64ed5$dde7e2c0$fc687ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002101c64ac4$2f109860$2102000a@ibm> <8bf118410603190722u455ba0f7q@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:59:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.204 Subject: LF: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6110 Dear Dick, LF Group, I used three 10m telescopic fibreglass "fishing poles" to set up an inverted L 136kHz antenna for an expedition to Puckeridge some years ago. The inverted L had about 40m horizontal section, with a single wire, and with about 300W I had many CW contacts up to 1000km or so, mostly during daylight (I didn't have the gear to do portable QRSS at that time). The most effective ground I tried was 4 x 1m ground rods, driven into the ground near the antenna downlead. This system achieved an ERP around 0.15W in a good open field location. The main difficulty with the fishing poles is that they are very flexible - I had to use nylon monofilament guys at the ends of the horizontal span, in order to keep the poles reasonably vertical. I used about 4mH loading coil inductance, wound on 100mm PVC tubing, in a plastic dustbin to tune the antenna. I had no problems at 300W, but later experience has shown that corona will be a problem with this short an antenna wire and 1kW TX power. The best way to avoid this would be to reduce the voltage by having a longer antenna, probably 80m or more would be OK, but this would need more poles to support it. I missed LX1PD last time around, so would certainly be pleased to work you in LX! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: LF: portable DX-pedition antenna? > Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, > and as efficient as possible? > Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) > > > > >