X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 81de4d9011438da88be633d1f18b7424d37912ea Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs28458wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.191.12 with SMTP id t12mr400290qbp; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si301275qbe.2006.03.20.20.35.13; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLYYs-00030Y-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:33:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLYYr-00030P-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:33:37 +0000 Received: from f1phy.netins.net ([167.142.228.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLZdt-0008Ou-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:42:55 +0000 X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.126] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 914333109; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:32 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Cc: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:18 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01c64ca0$97299180$6501a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20060321052022.036887c0@popper.forthnet.gr> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: RE: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6155 Good evening de EN31do. A.k.a., Des Moines, Iowa, USA area! Very interesting reminiscences! I have quite a few tube manuals, both receiving and industrial, and started in broadcasting in 1952. If memory serves correctly, there was a tube type 42 that was also a = beam power tube, one of many to be sure but the 42 is an older one. I'm about = to "sign off" for the night or I would go check it out. I remember seeing an aeronautical HF transmitter using three 6V6s and a 6SJY. The 6V6s were for the crystal controlled oscillator, power = amplifier, and modulator with the 6SJ7 as a speech amplifier. I think it was made = by Bendix. The 6V6 was a smaller version of the 6L6. The 6L6 came regularly in both glass and metal but it was quite rare to find a 6V6 metal version. I did come across one or two and I think I replaced the glass one in my olde = Globe King with the metal tube. The industrial version of a 6L6 was a type = 1622. In those days when I was the chief (usually pronounce that "only") = engineer I used the industrial versions for all the tubes I could and had very = few failures and cleaner tests. Examples: 12AX7 was 7025, 12AU7 was 5814, = and off the top of my head those are only a couple of the many equivalents, The 2E26 was, I believe, developed for FM broadcast band transmitters. = It is a smaller version of the 6146. Both of these were great tubes. Popular power tubes for VHF and some low UHF were the 832-A and the = larger 829-B. These "bottles" had two (2) power tetrodes in one envelops. Oh - my first 175 KHz transmitter, ca. 1965 or so used a 12AT7, 9 pin = twin triode, as a VCO and "power" amp. This was replete with a 12AX7 into = 6V6-GT modulator. GN ES 73 Doc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Costas Krallis SV1XV Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 21:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG At 20:41 20/3/2006 +0000, you wrote: > I think what Costas was getting at is that the 6L6 > was the grand daddy of all beam power tetrodes including > the 807, 6146 etc. Yes the 807 has higher voltage and > frequency rating than the 6L6 but both valves share > a common architecture. Yes, this is the meaning of my posting. In addition, 6L6 and 807 have the same design approach with long internal wires etc. 6146 was designed as an RF amplifier and is much more compact. Regarding power levels, the 6 W stated for 6L6 is for class A audio. You can get much more from a class C circuit. Maximum plate dissipation is 30 W maximum for 6L6CG. Strangely, 807W is rated at 25 W and 6146B at 20W. The data is from Sylvania. Of course at 30 W dissipation a 6L6 would not last long! 1987 ARRL handbook rates 6146 at 25 W max plate dissipation. My first HF transmitter had a 6L6 delivering 15-20 W CW on 7 and 10 MHz. Regards,=20 Costas +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Costas Krallis SV1XV * LOC KM18UA | | P.O.Box 3066 * E-Mail: | | GR-10210 Athens * PGP key: 0xEF65B04B | | GREECE * http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/ | +------------------------------------------------------------+