Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:28:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F7LDV-0000MU-V3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:28:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F7LDV-0000MF-Rt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:28:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F7LD7-0000ul-J8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:28:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F7LD7-0000uc-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:28:25 +0000 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F7MZp-00023b-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:56:16 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-26-211.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.26.211] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1F7LCS-000Pjk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:27:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c62dd2$fbc03e60$0200a8c0@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <020920062241.10576.43EBC52300092A360000295022007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:32:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Powedered Iron Cores for high power? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Warren I obtained a large powdered iron core ring (of uncertain pedigree), about 5inches diameter from either one of the Decca sites or from Rugby before it closed down. On this I wound about 12 turns of 12SWG wire tapped at every turn to make a multi-ratio auto transformer to match the Decca transmitter to the bottom of the loading coil. This handled around 7amps to the antenna when the Decca was on full power and the core and windings just became slightly warm after a couple of hours operation. 73 Peter G3LDO > > My loop has a step down transformer from 50 ohms to the loop impedance of about > 1.7 ohms. I've implemented this with 4 stacked FT-290-77 ferrites and 16 turns > of #10 teflon for the 50 ohm side and 3 turns of some european 16mm2 rubber > insulated wire for the low impedance loop side of the transformer. The > transformer and resonating caps are mounted in an fiberglass electrical > enclosure outside. The core does heat up - to the point where I've been leaving > the door to the enclosure open (not good!) I know that if I increase the turns > on the loop side I'll decrease the magnetic flux density and hence reduce the > core heating. However, the windings themselves appear to heat up a little > independent of the core heating. I'm reluctant to go to smaller gauge wire and I > can't fit any more turns on the existing core. I've found a powdered iron core > T-520-52 that seems like it might do the trick. The mix 52 material is a lower > loss version of the Mix 26 material. The permeability is high enough so that I > can get enough inductance on the 50 ohm side with a reasonable number of turns. > (Using the rule that inductive reactance of the primary is at least 5x the > source impedance of 50 ohms). Does anyone have any experience with powdered > iron cores at high power? Any thoughts on this problem? > Thanks & 73 > Warren > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > >