Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:44:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5mzo-00081k-KB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:44:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5mzn-0007uo-Nh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:44:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F5mz4-0005HC-FM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F5mz4-0005H3-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:30 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F5oKE-0001iQ-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:09:41 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:15367 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F5myT-000KSZ-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:42:54 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c62a73$2f204f10$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007001c62a34$97e808b0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> <007701c62a41$1414dbf0$8b1c0d54@traceydlqceh0p> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 17:42:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Active_antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Walter, Tracey, Alan, It happens to be that I own a battery powered SPM-3 and I have often used a (mini) whip without any connection to ground. As a whip is a monopole some counterpoise is necessary. I gathered that this happened by capacitive coupling between the case of the SPM-3 and earth (the real thing). As the (mini) whips capacitance is small, the value of the capacitor to earth need not be very large. This was confirmed when I lifted the SPM-3 from the plastic garden table and put it on the ground: the signal level increased. If I remember correct it was in the order of 1 dB or so. Regarding Tracey's suggestion, when the weather is a bit more like it, I will hoist the contraption up a fiberglass pole. The only problem is that the capacitance of the SPM-3 to ground will be substantial larger than from the (mini) whip. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt