Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F63Z6-0001RE-U8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F63Z6-0001Qz-PL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F63Yd-00011W-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F63Yc-00011N-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0159.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.159] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F64u3-0007wy-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:51:47 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.110) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F79300029EC9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:24:37 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c62b07$84758ea0$6ee4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007001c62a34$97e808b0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> <007701c62a41$1414dbf0$8b1c0d54@traceydlqceh0p> <002601c62a73$2f204f10$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:14:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Active_antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: LF: Re: Active_antennas > Hello Walter, Tracey, Alan, > > It happens to be that I own a battery powered SPM-3 and I have often used a > (mini) whip without any connection to ground. As a whip is a monopole some > counterpoise is necessary. Watch the counterpoise effect because, if it is long this could become the antenna. Try using the counterpoise itself as an antenna and the signal could be stronger than via the actual antenna !! I gathered that this happened by capacitive > coupling between the case of the SPM-3 and earth (the real thing). As the > (mini) whips capacitance is small, the value of the capacitor to earth need > not be very large. > > This was confirmed when I lifted the SPM-3 from the plastic garden table and > put it on the ground: the signal level increased. If I remember correct it > was in the order of 1 dB or so. > > Regarding Tracey's suggestion, when the weather is a bit more like it, I > will hoist the contraption up a fiberglass pole. The only problem is that > the capacitance of the SPM-3 to ground will be substantial larger than from > the (mini) whip. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > >