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When I used to listen 30 years ago on AM in a wide(ish) bandwidth at ~1900kHz, it sounded like a bell jangling - was this the same signal as your 'bandsaws' ? The signal was often referred to as the bells, I seem to reecall.

Andy G4JNT

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> ...multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ.

Excellent description, John! And a rather slow disco DJ, at that.

Here, I believe the frequency span was roughly 1700 to 1900. One could often hear them with an AM broadcast receiver, and 160m was largely the Unknown & Barely Usable Ham Band.

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