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Dear Uwe, LF Group,
 
The trade-off is that, although the bulky coil is eliminated, it is replaced with a bulky high-voltage, high current tuning capacitor. Also, much thicker antenna wire will be required to get reasonably low loss in the loop. I think if the antenna will be very close to a lot of trees, etc., the loop is worth considering because its losses are less sensitive to the surroundings, but a vertical is probably better in a reasonably "open" location.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Uwe Wensauer
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ?

To all ,
 
I would like to built a Tx antenne but with linited space I need at least a bulky 4 mh and variometer.
 
So I wonder if I could not use a loop antenna ( 20x 10m ) ? So I would not need such big coils ?
 
( high voltage vs. high current )
 
73, Uwe, DK1KQ