Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pi7-0003s4-7q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pi7-0003ma-0X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1phU-0001cE-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1phT-0001c5-KR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:48:59 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1qyY-0006KO-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:10:57 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25582 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1phD-000OvI-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:48:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:48:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Alan, LF group, Thank you for your comments. I am actually living in a house with brick walls and wooden floors. One of the tests I did was on the second floor of a large concrete community building. >> What is often not appeciated about voltage probe antennas is that the >> output signal voltage is dependent upon the height above ground << I have performed some height test as well and found the following figures: height rel. dB ================= 1.2 m / 4 ft 0 dB 2.4 m / 8 ft + 4 dB 3.6 m / 12 ft + 6 dB 4.8 m / 16 ft + 8 dB Shielding by bushes in my garden has also been noted. I had to raise it above these to restore a good s/n ratio. On the other hand, at an open field near a lake it worked first class 2 metre high and raising it improved signal strength but not the signal to noise ratio. I have a 0.7 metre tunable loop hanging on the wall. One of these days I will try it on 137 kHz indoor. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt