Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:07:03 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EbhnL-0004iO-1R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:07:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EbhnK-0004i0-QE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:07:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ebhmq-0006a5-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:06:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ebhmq-0006Zw-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:06:32 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ebiw2-0004hL-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:20:09 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1Ebhmm-0005xu-6E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:06:28 +0100 Received: from p54868d7b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.141.123] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54 #12) id 1Ebhml-0004CQ-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4378C41C.90803@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:06:36 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <67398444.20051114165749@t-online.de> <001701c5e936$9c06e310$020aa8c0@Laptop> In-Reply-To: <001701c5e936$9c06e310$020aa8c0@Laptop> Subject: Re: LF: Re: TA Nov, 13/14th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Greetings all, John wrote: > > XES did run in the WOLF 2.5 speed all night. I will use the 5 b/s rate > tonight with 50 watts, starting around 2330 UTC. Given WOLF's error > correction with copy being built up over a period of time, the slower > data rate may not be an advantage, as it is with uncorrected PSK. > This was also my impression when thinking about the lowest useful signalling rate. 2.5 b/s may give the WOLF decoder too few bits over a single lift in propagation to recognize the sync pattern; furthermore: the lower the bitrate, the larger the requirements for frequency stability (which includes the 'calibration' of the soundcard sampling rate). I didn't check if the tolerance range isn't also divided by four when the signalling rate is divided by four. John - please let me know any results of your local tests. Maybe there are one or two quirks in my modifications of Stewart's original algorithm, especially concerning the scaling of the 'frequency tolerance' parameter. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . P.S: Off-frequency posting ... I will be watching 3597.000 kHz tonight in WOLF 5 mode, starting around 19:00 UT .