Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:14:32 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EbPBH-0006SG-Lf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:14:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EbPBH-0006S3-HL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:14:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EbPB5-0001e8-3f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:14:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EbPB4-0001dz-ET for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:14:18 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EbQJt-00027Z-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:27:30 +0000 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1EbPA4-00047G-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:13:16 +0100 Received: from p5486b00c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.176.12] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54 #12) id 1EbPA4-0005D0-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4377AC83.7060507@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:13:39 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43779B9D.1030409@freenet.de> <003d01c5e895$3036dc40$0500a8c0@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <003d01c5e895$3036dc40$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WOLF now howling fast and slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) John Andrews schrieb: >Wolf, > > > >>WOLF now optionally runs faster (at 5 or even 2.5 symbols/seconds, >>besides the default 10), >>and also faster (with 20 or 40 symbols/second). >> >> > >Should that first "faster" actually be "slower?" > >John A. > > > Hi John, Yes, of course 5 or 2.5 symbols is *slower* than the original WOLF implementation. The goal was to squeeze a few dBs less required SNR out of it. Whether this helps on a really weak signal has still to be proven - because WOLF can already integrate over a larger number of blocks. If it runs slower, it also has less previously accumulated data bits from previous blocks. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . P.S. Ko- no copy on "half speed WOLF" on 3597 kHz yet. The RTTY contesters are a bit too strong still.