Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:08 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmiI-0004B5-Sq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmiI-0004AL-6a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmi6-0004nh-OL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmi6-0004nY-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEnAh-00029T-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:12:30 +0100 Received: from GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (200.3.3.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4324F7250000876B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:13 +0200 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales ([200.3.2.3]) by GWOUT with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:13 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:42:42 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4312FDB0000EAB0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43171567000841C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF5D3@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: TR: AR5000A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Many thanks to all who responded to my query about the AR5000A 10 MHz ref input. Please find below the answer I just got from AOR UK (thank you Tracey!) 73 de JL F6AGR > -----Message d'origine----- > De : AOR UK LTD [mailto:info@aoruk.com] > Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2005 10:53 > À : Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com > Objet : Re: AR5000A > The AR5000 series of receivers have been designed & > manufactured by our > associate company in Japan who are responsible for international > distribution, the appointment of national distributors and support: > > AOR Ltd, 2-6-4 Misuji, Taito-Ku, Tokyo 111-0055, Japan > Tel: +81 3 3865 1695 > Fax: +81 3 3865 1697 > e-mail: post@aorja.com > WEB http://www.aorja.com > > I wonder what specific query you have regarding the 10MHz external > reference, here are a few comments... > > 1) Selection of the external 10MHz / internal 12.8MHz > reference is via a > menu. > > 2) From our experiments, the minimum drive level is about 0dBm, about > 10dB above this level (+10dBm) appears necessary to ensure > PLL LOCK on > all bands. We have driven the AR5000 successfully from our workshop > reference of 5V. > > 3) Only the master oscillator is controlled by this > reference, the radio > uses three oscillators in its superheterodyne circuit, so use > of a 10MHz > reference does not make the radio fully frequency / phase > coherent. AOR > used to make a custom version for coherence called the AR5000C, it is > no-longer available. > > 4) Typical drift using the internal 12.8MHz reference can be > viewed on > the following link: http://www.aoruk.com/5000bull.htm#frequency > > I hope my comments will be of assistance. > > Regards, Richard Hillier - AOR UK > > b.c.c. Frederic Collin, AOR Japan > >  > >  > >-----Message d'origine----- > >De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de > Tracey Gardner > >Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2005 10:23 > >À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >Objet : LF: Re: AR5000A > > > >Hello Jean-Louis > >  > >Just contact Richard Hillier at AOR UK. info@aoruk.com > >He will be able to answer your question straight away. > >I've always found AOR UK to be extremely helpful. > >I've no connection with them, other than being a satisfied customer. > >  > >73s Tracey > >  > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:07 AM > > Subject: LF: AR5000A > > > > Hi all > >   > > The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. > input allowing to > > lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The > > user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape  > (square ? sine ?) > > and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used. > > Anyone there having any details ? > >   > > Thanks > >   > > 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR > > -- > AOR UK LTD, Unit 9, Dimple Road Business Centre, Matlock, > Derbys DE4 3JX, > England > Tel: 01629 581222 International +44 1629 581222 > Fax: 01629 580070 International +44 1629 580070 > info@aoruk.com http://www.aoruk.com >