Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:15 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EISgI-0007rI-N2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EISgI-0007qW-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EISfU-0001BD-3P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:07:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EISfT-0001B4-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:07:23 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EITBt-0008NQ-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:40:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 20026 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 15:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.9.178 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 15:07:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c5bf87$516cc460$b2098351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:06:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Chris, yes this is possible, and it all depends on what crystal oscillator you are using. You may find that the "logic inverter" style circuit is not quite stable enough for very slow DFCW but is certainly OK at 3 and probably 10 second elements. One beauty of visual decode is thatit doesnt matter too much if it drifts....it may insense the purists (like me .... :-)) but if it stays on screen you can read it. You must try to avoid chirp though....often due to RF getting back into the keying leads. I sent FSK RTTY in the "Good Old Days" on 2m and 70cms with this technique just FMing the crystal before multiplication to get 170Hz shift. STOP tittering 'YKB !! Lets assume you have a logic osc as Dave used in the original amp (I think) Take the crystal pin that is connected to an "input" and connect a silicon diode cathode to a 50pF trimmer the other terminal of which is connected to the crystal. The anode of the diode is connected to ground. Apply bias an signal to the diode from the slider of a 10k pot and through a 10k resistor. Decouple the top of the pot well. The trimmer should be set to the minimum value that will give the required shift. The pot will give a fine control. It is probably advisable not to apply a ground (0v) as one signal element. I would suggest a signal swinging between about +2 and +5 volts. (the higher the voltage the smaller the capacity.) The reason for this is that the capacity of the diode changes most around zero volts bias. You will probably find that any small-signal silicon diode works 1N4148, 1N916 etc...... dont use a 1N400x power diode they have too much capacity (bigger area junction to carry the current). If you use a mixer osc using two high frequency crstals you only need to FM one of them. But be careful of element inversion. (I think the protocol is Highest Frequency is "Dash" ) I find that inter-element spacing is not essential, but some find it easier to read. The gap can be sub-dot length as this give a "glitch" on the received copy....allowing an element count to be done, and also characterising the signal ....not everybodies element length or "weight" are the same, and it can be useful in identifying a signal, just as one can audibly. You will have to play with the values to get the right shift, then you may be able to rplace the trimmer with a fixed small cap 50pF max may be too big as the min is around 6 pF. Set it at min an just key the osc into the rx and set up on ARGO. If the above circuit description is noy clear I will knock up a graphic for you. Best of luck, I look forward to having my front end blocked by your signal Chris. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 22 September 2005 13:56 Subject: LF: DFCW > > > My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option > of DFCW. > > I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the > crystal and thus pulling the frequency > for achieving the dots / dashes. > > Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve > this ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > >