Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:08:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Dza1u-0006bq-18 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:08:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Dza1t-0006bk-TV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:08:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Dza1c-0000S1-Ks for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:08:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Dza1c-0000Rs-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:08:12 +0100 Received: from mailfe12.swipnet.se ([212.247.155.97] helo=swip.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DzaLc-0006AJ-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:28:53 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: 7tTLvD67BptoA2C1rjPWBw== Received: from [213.101.38.183] ([213.101.38.183] verified) by mailfe12.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 2161785 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:08:04 +0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.338 [267.9.7]); Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:09:05 +0000 Message-ID: <42EE1EEF.4080804@tele2.se> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:09:03 +0000 From: Johan Bodin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c58ab2$0cd7acc0$dd088751@w4o8m9> <000e01c59564$475750a0$9a952ed8@server> In-Reply-To: <000e01c59564$475750a0$9a952ed8@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Suitable ground? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Yes, I have been using the 150mm (6") pipe in our well with quite good results. The pipe is 12m long and goes about 11 m (36ft) through soil and about 1m into the granite rock below (total hole depth is 111m). At resonance, my antenna had a feedpoint resistance of 35 ohms. The loading coil loss was around 8 ohms, including the variometer, leaving a loss resistance of about 27 ohms for ground connection + "environmental loss". The TX was connected to the pipe ground via 25m 2.5mm^2 wire laying on the ground. I made an interesting observation when connecting the mains protective ground in parallel with the "pipe ground" - the feedpoint resistance increased to 50-60 ohms!... The antenna was an 85 meter long inverted L at an average height of 14m. 73 Johan SM6LKM J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > [...] However, about 150 feet from my house is a water well in the > form of an 8 inch diameter steel pipe that goes down 275 feet! > Has anyone on the list had any experience using such as a ground > for a Marconi antenna? [...] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 2005-07-28