Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:58:13 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1DqT8z-000219-HL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:58:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1DqT8z-00020j-C6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:58:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DqT8b-0004k2-OK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:57:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DqT8a-0004jt-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:57:44 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DqTGL-0001WZ-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:05:48 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-193.fen-net.de [212.204.117.73]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j679raYS012052 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:53:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <003101c582db$7c09e880$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:06:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RE: 500KHz/600m Proposal Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Message
Dear Steve and All,
         let me tell you a little bit about DI2AG on 440Khz. I am ham now since 51years and was always interested in HF-propagation, from UHF to LF and MW as well. As we do not have an amateur radio location on MW I asked the the german authorities for a special permit with low power and only very small band operation - CW, QRSS, DFCW, PSK....... And I got it. 9W ERP, 200Hz bandwidth, 440KHz. The permit is valid to the end of 2005, maybe it can be prolonged. Mostly DI2AG operates as a beacon on 440.044KHz in QRSS3 with 0.5W ERP, sometimes at weekend or on request with 3W ERP. Got reports from 14 european countries ( sorry, not VE, W ), ODX is 2463Km to TF.
         But please realize: DI2AG is no amateur radio application, the "DI"-prefix is only for research and test. Therefore no amateur radio operation, no duplex and so on.  (But if you send me a sreenshot with reception I will send you a QSL-card ;-)
73    Walter   DJ2LF
 
 
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Steve McDonald <jsm@gulfislands.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2005 09:21
Betreff: LF: Re: Re: RE: 500KHz/600m Proposal

 
Uwe...would this be a proposal for amateur radio use of the 600m spectrum or for some other purpose?
 
Steve / VE7SL
 
 
Former Seefunker  in Germany sent a proposal to RegTP ( Regulierungsbehörde ... ) too.
The proposal is speaking about the use in Museumships
Please be most patient
 
vy 73 Uwe
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: LF: RE: 500KHz/600m Proposal

I posted a note to this reflector that was written for the RSGB's Spectrum Forum the other day - maybe you and others haven't seen it. The position in the UK is that the RSGB submitted a proposal for access to frequencies around 500kHz, see http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/mf.htm.  This is fairly self-explainatory.  The proposal is still being considered by our regulator, Ofcom.
 
Elsewhere, Walter, DJ2LF has a special permit for the current year for a beacon, DI2AG, that transmits on 440.044kHz.
 
73 John, G3WKL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Steve McDonald
Sent: 06 July 2005 21:01
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500KHz/600m Proposal

Could someone bring me up to speed on this in the UK or elsewhere in Europe? Our Industry Canada liason person is looking for information to bolster a possible proposal for a 600m amateur allocation. Any background history would be helpful.
 
Thanks!
 
Steve / VE7SL
 
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