Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:29:10 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1DrPgv-0002M2-RW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:29:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1DrPgv-0002Lu-NX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:29:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DrPgc-00047j-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:28:46 +0100 Received: from [82.108.183.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DrPgb-00047a-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:28:45 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DrPga-0005I6-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:28:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 26588 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2005 00:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.143.192 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2005 00:28:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c584e6$4f8b4940$c08f7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7691559.1120841519913.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> <42CEE89F.2000408@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:28:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Mains Earth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Joe if you look back to Jim's field strength measurements he found that he got anomolous results when he was near overhead lines (power or telephone) that ran away from is TX site. There is no doubt that these go act as "guide" for RF, but we have all measured substantial reductions in ground loss ( as measured by bridge) when the mains earth is included in the grounding regime. (This does not work for everyone though) If this was the case I would have expected your antenna current to increase when you connect the mains earth.....strange. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Craig" To: Sent: 09 July 2005 12:50 Subject: LF: Mains Earth > Dear Group, > Thanks to Alan, Laurie and Wolf for their info on the mains earth. > At this station, there is one transmission line that runs in front > of the house and another about 1 km to the south that runs > roughly perpendicular to it so the mains earth grid is a bit sparse. > When doing mobile FS measurements, I noticed that the signals > were always stronger near the mains lines and suspected for a while that > the signals were being conducted along the lines rather than being > radiated. This was put to rest when Alan copied the sigs 2 years ago. > > Thanks to G3AQC and Hartmut for the signal reports. > > 73 > Joe > >