Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:56 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DZckB-00027D-E4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:56 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DZck6-0008KV-Os for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DZck6-0008KS-Ms for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DZcoW-0002ac-IE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:51:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DZcij-0005Is-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:45:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DZcii-0005Ij-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:45:24 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DZcig-0003sY-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:45:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 375 invoked from network); 21 May 2005 22:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 21 May 2005 22:45:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c55e4e$6ceda1e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c55a6e$8d82f740$37d0fc3e@l8p8y6> <000d01c55b45$acb45e60$ac068351@w4o8m9> <002f01c55d97$09df4840$8c802ed8@server> <000901c55d99$bb7d7cf0$0700a8c0@Laptop> <005201c55e00$e1f57ce0$8c802ed8@server> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:45:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Loop antenna problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) J.B., There is another approach you might want to consider. Skip the single turn link altogether. Rather than the normal parallel tuning, series tune the loop into a transformer wound on a ferrite core. The turns ratio of the transformer will determine the Q of the loop. You might not want a really high Q setup with a loop of that size. I have been using a 10 turn (on the loop side) to 20 turn transformer to couple to a 50 ohm termination. This places a nominal 12.5 Ohms in series with the loop. A higher ratio would improve the Q, but this might be a good starting point for you to play with. The core material in this case is #77, but #43 or similar should be OK. The advantage of this arrangement is that the loop remains inherently balanced to ground, while giving you the flexibility of playing with the coupling. You may choose to put the preamp right at the transformer secondary, or run a coax line back to the shack. A short write-up on my arrangement is available at: http://www.w1tag.com/rxloop.htm John Andrews