Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4686 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2005 21:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2005 21:17:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DGO7u-0003pW-VZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:19:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DGO4i-0005OM-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:16:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DGO4i-0005OD-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:16:36 +0100 Received: from bay102-f20.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.30] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGO4g-00089V-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:16:36 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:16:23 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:16:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <004101c534a0$e03f8c80$2102000a@ibm> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:16:22 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2005 21:16:23.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F4CC0A0:01C534A4] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.30 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: RE: LF: low long wire as TX-antenna??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I had a 500m wire strung at 5m on screw into wood insulators thru the forests of Alaska, straightline - unterminated but matched and tuned against ground. I could get the same amount of aerial current than my big L/T, abt 3.5A for 300W but Im afraid it was some 10dB down on the L/T array at 50miles in all directions. Could be the thick forest, could be the ground, could be the...it was also down on DX receive too towards Eu when looking at DCF39. I could start rumbling on about loops but heck I should have used one up there... Laurence KL1X EM26AQ in Okie. >From: "Dick" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: low long wire as TX-antenna??? >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:49:14 +0200 > >I wonder if anyone here has experience in using a low long wire as TX >antenna on 136kHz. > >I'm thinking of around 400-500m long wire at 1m above ground. >I still have a lot of 'portable'beverage stuff lying around from my >previous activeties: >mediumwave and NDB-beacon DX. >Maybe it's worthwile to try......... > >Dick, pa4vhf > >