Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47042 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2005 00:27:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2005 00:27:58 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DGR1o-000Cne-JM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:25:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DGR1o-000Cnb-HB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:25:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DGR4U-00026s-F0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:28:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DGR0b-00062J-BS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:24:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DGR0a-00062A-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:24:32 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGR0Z-0000qK-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:24:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2U0ONnF018734 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:24:23 -0600 Message-ID: <4249F22C.2050805@genesiswireless.us> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:26:20 -0600 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: low long wire as TX-antenna??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Couldn't imagine how strong your signal would have been if you would have used a big loop in those tall pines. Oh well so many what if's... -- Mike WE0H WD2XGI Laurence KL1X wrote: > I had a 500m wire strung at 5m on screw into wood insulators thru the > forests of Alaska, straightline - unterminated but matched and tuned > against ground. I could get the same amount of aerial current than my > big L/T, abt 3.5A for 300W but Im afraid it was some 10dB down on the > L/T array at 50miles in all directions. Could be the thick forest, > could be the ground, could be the...it was also down on DX receive too > towards Eu when looking at DCF39. > > I could start rumbling on about loops but heck I should have used one > up there... > > Laurence KL1X EM26AQ in Okie. > >> From: "Dick" >> Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group >> To: >> Subject: LF: low long wire as TX-antenna??? >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:49:14 +0200 >> >> I wonder if anyone here has experience in using a low long wire as TX >> antenna on 136kHz. >> >> I'm thinking of around 400-500m long wire at 1m above ground. >> I still have a lot of 'portable'beverage stuff lying around from my >> previous activeties: >> mediumwave and NDB-beacon DX. >> Maybe it's worthwile to try......... >> >> Dick, pa4vhf >> >> > > > >